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@tinrocha @TimSweeneyEpic Xbox is 30% Microsoft store is the one that’s 12% https://t.co/CvcIUvxSls

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@TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic I truly don't think Tim is interested in building a genuine alternative to Steam like GOG. If anything it looks like he wants his platform to be a monopoly like Steam failing to realizing quite a frw things that makes Steam so popular in the first place

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@GeraGalvez @TimSweeneyEpic It's Ubisoft's choice to sell on Steam. No one requires them to do it. You use their platform. You follow their rules. Having to follow a platforms rules does not make a monopoly.

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@tinrocha @zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic No lol. Microsoft store and Xbox are two separate apps. BOTH are available on PC

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@Mushgamer99 @TimSweeneyEpic Oh for sure, Epic Games are FAR more monopolistic than Steam ever have been (which is not at all)

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@TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic Wish he was at least sincere that all he wants is to have a monopoly on the giant that is PC Gaming without doing any of the work for it. Just throw money at the problem or help sue Steam out of it.

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@Axiom0159 @TimSweeneyEpic For real. All sweeney does anymore is cry and bitch. If Sweeney put as much effort into building a better product as he does crying on the internet then epic would be more successful.

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@AkiraJkr1 @TimSweeneyEpic The blatant hypocrisy with Tim Sweeney and Epic Games as a whole disgusts me.

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@Ahmed_Qaraxy @TimSweeneyEpic Nobody wants to use a vastly inferior platform to play a game they already own dumbass. Its not that deep. Calling Epic haters cultish is just projection from you. Defending Epic Games is like defending people who club baby seals. You have no leg to stand on.

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@RagingWolffe @TimSweeneyEpic This is 100% accurate. Steam keeps winning because it does shit so much better than other stores. I mean, look at the fucking Epic store.

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@coleman_sellers @TimSweeneyEpic Because he sues other competitors for the crime of being more successful than him, while wanting to have it both ways: forcing (and failing) to monopolize the PC gaming market while offering nothing of value to the consumer in comparison with what Valve offers with Steam.

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@TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic Did same thing to Rocket League, no longer available on Steam after free to play update, because Epic has dreams of becoming a monopoly They are upgrading RL to UE6, there has been rumors that new version won't be available through Steam for those already owning it there.

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@enthusiast_vgm @TimSweeneyEpic Absolutely. If they don't like it, don't sell your games there.

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@TimSweeneyEpic I understand that you would rather misrepresent Steam and back lawsuits against them (even financially) than actually make the Epic Games Store a compelling choice for consumers, but your disingenuousness and cognitive dissonance has a limit of tolerability.

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@GeraGalvez @Axiom0159 @TimSweeneyEpic They can, nothing is stopping them, but they wont. Ubi doesnt care about selling cheaper, what kind of argument is this They quit Steam and stopped selling Ubisoft games for almost 5 years and they never dropped a single penny for their games, this is such a dumb excuse.

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@RamblingOnDeck @TimSweeneyEpic exactly. EGS is so shit people would rather pay and actually get good service. https://t.co/YcnuMzIxAy

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@DJZeeJay @TimSweeneyEpic It means a game being given at a lower price on steam.

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@GoldenAKMs @GeraGalvez @TimSweeneyEpic So because somebody gets angry it makes a monopoly

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@Chrisness @Axiom0159 @GeraGalvez @TimSweeneyEpic Ubisoft could have just as easily lowered the price on steam to make it match.

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@Raidfather Insults everyone inside of the thread for not having any sort of legitimate argument. Proceeds to supply absolutely no argument at all.

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@TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic Once that incident happened with Metro Exodus being pulled from Steam just as it was launching, because of last-minute Epic Games exclusivity, l knew Tim Swiney never cared about 'fair' competition, and instead care more about buying his way to 'first' amongst his competition.

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@BarryDingleSak @TimSweeneyEpic This! Hard to take Tim Weenie seriously when Games that used to be on steam aren't because of his actions.

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@Ahmed_Qaraxy @TimSweeneyEpic Xbox, not microsoft store

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@tinrocha @BarryDingleSak @TimSweeneyEpic I sincerely hope this is a joke

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@tinrocha @BarryDingleSak @TimSweeneyEpic Are u trolling?

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@georgebsocial @TimSweeneyEpic The more and more I read Tim's crybaby, Steam posts... the more I think of him as a total prick.

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@zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic Lol he paid Deep Silver to take Metro Exodus preorders off Steam after it was already live for a month IIRC. It only came back on Steam after the exclusivity period ended.

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@thejetixmasta @TimSweeneyEpic As well as directly wasted millions suing them, which eventually contributed to over 1000 employees being laid off.

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@RamblingOnDeck @TimSweeneyEpic Yeah. He literally dumps product on the market that other platforms have to pay full price for.

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@Axiom0159 @TimSweeneyEpic He is absolutely a little bitch but he is right in this one. Why can’t ubi sell a game cheaper on their own storefront without being threatened by Valve?

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@LockePSB @TimSweeneyEpic I too remember that weirdo…

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@Lensar_dawn @TimSweeneyEpic Epic thought “hey if we give free games away people will choose us over Steam”. It’s like see what Steam is doing and….copy it or maybe make improvements on your own store front. It’s not hard to listen to the users and find an actual solution.

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@Chrisness @Axiom0159 @GeraGalvez @TimSweeneyEpic Then they can just take it off the steam store. It’s not like they HAVE to sell it on steam.

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@tarmo888 @TimSweeneyEpic This is literally how a free market works. Competition shows up. Your business adapts or dies.

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@GeraGalvez @Axiom0159 @TimSweeneyEpic There is something wrong there. They make Uplay to rival steam and remove their games from steam, same EA, Same Actiblizz, didn't work. they comeback but maybe there is limitations for any reason. But u can indeed sell a game on any platform more cheaper, just not the steam key https://t.co/os7XaH9kWC

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@tarmo888 @TimSweeneyEpic "But consoles have exclusives too!" This already been addressed a million times. Either you get it or you don't.

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@TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic They just want to destroy valve because they are independent. It has nothing to do with a fair market. They can't compete monetarily or morally with steam so they are using lawfare. It's very jewish.

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@TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic don't forget they singled out apple 2

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@RifqyDG @TimSweeneyEpic @grok What other games aside from Rocket League are no longer available on Steam due to Epic Games acquiring exclusivity rights to them?

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@RamblingOnDeck @TimSweeneyEpic and pays for exclusivity on PC which, most times, has hurt the game studios in the end.

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@Jumpluff165820 @Tecnoguy1 @GeraGalvez @Axiom0159 @TimSweeneyEpic Nobody forces developers to use Steam, you have itchio, GOG

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@MagnumOsiris @TimSweeneyEpic Plus Nintendo+playstation+Xbox all require a subscription, which they can at anytime and shown are willing to increase the price, to play online. Whilst steam has free online

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@jmdagdelen @zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic No he definitely has an issue with it he took apple to court lmao

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@georgebsocial @TimSweeneyEpic Valve will only do that if you are selling steam keys off the platform for a big discount. If you are selling copies that have no ties to Steam, valve doesn't care if you sell it for less.

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@georgebsocial @TimSweeneyEpic The dev can trivially go into Steamworks and set the sale price for their game to the same as they are doing for the other platform for the same duration.

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@BarryDingleSak @TimSweeneyEpic Rocket League is literally the only thing I use EGS for. I don't even download the free games, rather just buy'em on Steam.

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Because it's a bogus issue that Timmy Whinny is using to stir up unnecessary drama in an attempt to attract customers to his crappy store. Steam does what everyone else does—they take 30%—and that's never been a problem for decade. Epic comes along with its pre-alpha store, brags about its 12% cut, thinking it’ll immediately attract devs and then players. When it doesn’t work: He whines, writes a check to keep things exclusive temporarily, and screams that Steam is ripping off devs. Why mentioning the Microstore ? it’s basically just a mobile app store for Xbox games.

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@MajorKaza @Lensar_dawn @TimSweeneyEpic I guess it's not an epic design https://t.co/D6h2hgvQyt

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I think the real sticking point is whether the pricing parity should even be allowed, right? Like yes, ubisoft violated their agreement. However, the agreement to parity may be a step too far. That's what the argument hinges upon, but a contract violation is still a violation. Both can be held liable, IMHO, which means nothing in antitrust court. Ultimately, that is the final decision.

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@georgebsocial @TimSweeneyEpic If the "other store" is not selling a steam-enabled build - sure! Set whatever price they want. Totally agree. But if the game has core functionality built around Steamworks - achs, presence, networking, entitlement checks,etc - then price parity seems pretty fair.

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@zewmerz @tinrocha @TimSweeneyEpic Outdated now but this was normal https://t.co/BXIXRJAIhS

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@KyleRowan11331 @TimSweeneyEpic Because Valve developed the fucking game

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@EXEcutionare @TimSweeneyEpic https://t.co/CEXfMJFvhO

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@GeraGalvez @Axiom0159 @TimSweeneyEpic Because of the contract they signed to sell on steam lmao

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@tinrocha @zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic You can't even tell which one's which you fucking moron.

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@coleman_sellers @BarryDingleSak @TimSweeneyEpic He is a salty little bitch XD instead of improving launcher he is giving games for free and other one lock behind exclusivity.

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@Ahmed_Qaraxy @BarryDingleSak @TimSweeneyEpic 1. Optional product you don't have to buy to use steam or even steam OS 2. By law there no illegal gambling on steam , steam also can not be held responsible for what a 3rd party does. 3. DRM is legal and used everywhere Steam no different then epic or anyone else even GOG

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@VativGG @TimSweeneyEpic I'm not going to disagree, but the fact of the matter is, Tim is a complete and utter hypocrite and he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

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@Lensar_dawn @TimSweeneyEpic genuinely disgusting, how the fuck people use epic games.

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@Chrisness @Axiom0159 @GeraGalvez @TimSweeneyEpic Then, if the point is selling the game, sell it at the same price. But nope, Ubi wanted to reap clients, not sell copies. That's a bad actor.

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@Marley_Q @gorellana09 @TimSweeneyEpic Not how it works it can be lower so long as steam customers get a deal similar

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@SmashJT @TimSweeneyEpic I remember one bully developer that Tim stood up for. https://t.co/e3MjLGnsWm

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Thank you for exposing that you have no brain. "Bloated Denuvo" Denuvo is third party software and compagnie, Valve has no say in it "steam deck 300$ price increase" Hmm... surely its because steam is greedy and not the fact thatRAM cost a arm and legs because of IA and the war in Iran and let's forget that Nitendo and Sony also raise the price of their console too. Gambling : Oustide steam is a problem and you can directly buy or sell so ? Also : "Steam is most anti consumer company in existence"

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@iMissY2K @TimSweeneyEpic Indeed. Every month a AAA game for free. Never installed that shit.

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@Topinka222 @TimSweeneyEpic @zewmerz 2€ si usas los precios regionales ( que no tiene Epic)

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@EXEcutionare @TimSweeneyEpic That layoff was also done close to a increase in the price of their in-game ok premium currency as well.

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@TimSweeneyEpic All this just makes you look a sore loser A loser who failed at being competition so the only things you do are back lawsuits (too pussy to sue yourself) and whine all day online about your competition

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@irondog55 @TimSweeneyEpic I'm comfortable with you being wrong. What with your massive industry experience and inside information and all. jfc bro.

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@zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic I don't think Tim has any issue with stores charging whatever fees they want to. His issue is that Valve will kick you off steam for ALL of your games if you try to sell any of them through another channel at a cheaper price than what you sell your game for on Steam.

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@zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic He's not going to answer. He just wants to always sell at a lower price than Steam to attract more users to Epic Store. I don't know how he's still working at Epic. From what I can see, he's just going to end like Pat Gelsinger at Intel.

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@coolguyx14 @MajorKaza @Lensar_dawn @TimSweeneyEpic That joke is as bad as Epic's design and you should feel bad about making it... I chuckled a lil bit.

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@jmdagdelen @zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic GOG, Humble, Greenmangaming, etc. do this all the time. This is patently and demonstrably false on two decades of publicly available data.

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@TimSweeneyEpic you literally give out free games that are pretty good but steams somehow the issue? People pick steam because it has the most games. Simple and fast ui but most importantly download speed. Steam 950mbps Epic: fluctuating 0-300mbps Fix yo shit cuh

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@EXEcutionare @TimSweeneyEpic Damn, I see why they call you the executioner

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@Josh_Christiane @TimSweeneyEpic Because it will make Steam look worse to consumers by seeing that it’s the most expensive store. Steam have a right to protect their business. They’d rather lose the product than lose customers.

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"Dude stop running away, I compare apple to apple. You have to compare steam to epic games and Microsoft store." I don't need to because its a false problem created by Tim. and again Microsoft store is a bloated mobile app store with only Xbox game in it, not worst talking about it. Epic game store is shit everyone know it and you are defending it like bootlicker you are. 12% cut is the ONLY thing ESG has to offer to studio. For player ? Nothing really...

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@TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic They don't realize it doesn't improve their platform

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@Ahmed_Qaraxy @TimSweeneyEpic Raising price is raising price. Its bad i recognize that. And i hope when the IA explosion and Iran War stop they will decrease the price of the decks

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@zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic People will pay even more to have game on Steam with Steam features that Epic Games Store is lacking. Tim is only good ad crying about Steam monopoly but can't make simliar features on Epic Games Store that are on Steam too.

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@TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic Tim will not respond to this. Tim is just bitter that steam is the dominant client vs his. 😂

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@Ahmed_Qaraxy @BarryDingleSak @TimSweeneyEpic Still looking for any arguments here, but all I see is silly keyboardwarrioring and emotional tantrums. Have a good one.

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@Lensar_dawn @TimSweeneyEpic Why the fuck is there a "Search store" bar on the LIBRARY holy shit i didnt remember that im crying 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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@DrakelingLabs @TimSweeneyEpic Then sell your game on Epic or literally anywhere else. Nobody force you to do this. If you do then read and accept the policy and stop whining like a baby

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@Josh_Christiane @TimSweeneyEpic A publisher loses more than Valve.

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He’s saying that Steam requires a 30% cut from the publisher to sell their game on their store front. If that publisher also puts the game somewhere where the cut percentage is lower (say 10%) and the publisher then wants to pass those savings to the consumer by making it then cheaper to buy, Steam then refuses to sell the game at all. If their service is so good, slight price differences shouldn’t matter right? Other store fronts try to compete one way by taking lower cuts but Steam pull stuff like this when those savings are passed to gamers.

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@Marley_Q @gorellana09 @TimSweeneyEpic Yes of course they dont want their customer to feels they got screwed over for choosing their platform. And why cant other launchers better their platform to make it more viable. The only launcher I can think is good enough ig GOG. And people use steam because its superior produc

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@gorellana09 @TimSweeneyEpic Either be like gog and offer something steam cannot or just shut up and improve your store front. Nobody likes a sore loser

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@Marley_Q @gorellana09 @TimSweeneyEpic valve doesn't get a cut of the sale when the game is sold on humble bundle, 2game, DLGamer, Dreamgame, Fanatical, Fortuna Digital, GameBillet, GamersGate, Gamesload, GamesPlanet sites, GreenManGaming, IndieGala Store, Nuuvem, JoyBuggy they are real steam keys from valve.

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@Ahmed_Qaraxy @MagnumOsiris @TimSweeneyEpic I think op is talking about Xbox who is owned by Microsoft

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@jrzscodes @TimSweeneyEpic Haha, thanks for noticing. It's mainly just a gaming surname, but I am quite good at taking proverbial scalps, or so I've noticed.

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@Dave_ThePCGuy @TimSweeneyEpic That's why his launcher is dog shit, he has no spare time to improve it XD a

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@Ahmed_Qaraxy @BarryDingleSak @TimSweeneyEpic No one is defending a company, Steam values its customers just better than Epic Games does and it shows in almost every metric. The numbers are disagreeing with you here. If you still argue against this, it makes you look like a cultist and not the rest. 🙃

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@BarryDingleSak @TimSweeneyEpic What the fuck?? You cant buy Rocket League on steam anymore??? I didnt know that

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@Knightw0lf_ @zewmerz @tinrocha @TimSweeneyEpic Which does fuck all to resolve the fact that Sweeney thinks Steam is the only marketplace that takes 30% like he constantly bitches about. God forbid he make a store that people actually want to shop in instead of blaming everyone else for the problems that only Epic has had.

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@tinrocha @zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic You might have a very small case of serious brain damage

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@GoldenAKMs @TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic Valve aquired Campo Santo and kept Firewatch on both GOG and EGS. EGS aquired Rocket League and Fall Guys and delisted both of them on Steam.

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@Josh_Christiane @TimSweeneyEpic That must be why EA and Ubisoft put their game catalogs back on to Steam, because it drew such a big audience to their own launchers 😂

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@Marley_Q @gorellana09 @TimSweeneyEpic Well why should steam customers get screwed over because a publisher decided to use the other launcher for discounted rates. Its not our problem that other launcher are a hot pile of trash. We use steam because its good, so either make the prices same throughout or dont.

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@Marley_Q @gorellana09 @TimSweeneyEpic you can literally buy 1,000 games in which valve won't get any money from if you buy just from other sites and not steam. all they do is ask valve for keys and then valve gives them a certain amount of keys to sell.

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@TimSweeneyEpic Hint if you want to try : from:@/TimSweeneyEpic steam It's in three digits from 2019 to now

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@Ahmed_Qaraxy @TimSweeneyEpic I wonder why when EA and T2 do the same thing with FIFA/FC and NBA, which are rated PEGI 3+ I think a 3-year-old's brain can quickly become addicted to gaming The trial: it's because the random attack on Rothschild didn't work, so this is a new attempt

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Yes but is that the point? What if another platform just wanted to sell games for some % off and devs wanted to try that? Impossible. What if a dev was not having to pay another platform 30% but less so they could afford to sell the game cheaper? Impossible. It's about clamping you into price parity and one of the key ways another platform could compete - is on price. We aren't able to test any of these theories and that's at the heart of the matter.

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@zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic False, Xbox has a 12% tax on its store.

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@tinrocha @TimSweeneyEpic And it's also logical that a store can say "I won't hold your product anymore"

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@TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic Console stores are a totally different comparison. PC is supposed to be an open fair market. What if Windows just decided to delist Steam games that were allowed to run on Linux?

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@DJZeeJay @RamblingOnDeck @TimSweeneyEpic It´s not awesome for developers, all the people i know who use the Epic launcher never ever bought a single game, they only use it to claim free games and that´s it

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@Mr_Peggle @Axiom0159 @GeraGalvez @TimSweeneyEpic No. They’re FORCED to take it off the Steam store because valve is anti-consumer and doesn’t let developers give the consumers the option to pay Valve the 30% cut and play on Steam or save money. Price parity rules are anti-consumer.

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@Axiom0159 Clicked into the thread, since "surely one of the 1500 comments would make a coherent argument defending Steam, right?" Nope, just angry idiotic screaming

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@Chrisness @Mr_Peggle @Axiom0159 @GeraGalvez @TimSweeneyEpic Saying Valve is anti consumer while talking about ubisoft is insane

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@DrakelingLabs @TimSweeneyEpic And it is a violation of their policies. Someone has to read the EULA....

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@tarmo888 @Axiom0159 @TimSweeneyEpic The issue that isn't mentioned here is that many of these third party sellers still use Steam's features even when they are selling the game on their own storefront via things like keys. When they sell the key on their own store, they are using Valves services, but not paying.

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Huh? Do you hear yourself? Why on earth would it be a bad thing if publishers want to pass savings to customers? Steam has a dedicated customer base so they will go to steam regardless. Other store fronts try with less market share can compete by being cheaper but Steam appears to be strong arming other store leveraging that competitive advantage

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@Marley_Q @gorellana09 @TimSweeneyEpic Steam te permite generar una key de tu juego para que puedas venderla en otras tiendas omitiendo el 30% de comisión, uno de los puntos de esto es vender la key al mismo precio o más caro, no más barato por tema lógico y que steam no permite penalizandote en la plataforma.

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@Marley_Q @unknownzombie01 @gorellana09 @TimSweeneyEpic That’s not the point. The point is that if the game is cheaper elsewhere, users could be encouraged not to install Steam. That’s way more important to Steam than the 30% being lessened.

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@TimSweeneyEpic The epic games launcher got messaging recently, congrats!! Its on par with steam *checks notes*... 20 years ago

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@BarryDingleSak @TimSweeneyEpic EGS invests its revenue in its own games and third-party games, what does Valve invest it in? new yachts?

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@SmashJT @TimSweeneyEpic This is going to invite retaliation bullying

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@zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic The fee for Xbox app and Microsoft store games have been 12% since 2021. Consoles are a closed system so it's not really comparable.

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@zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic Xbox on PC = Microsoft Store https://t.co/DQabAcKoOO

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@georgebsocial @TimSweeneyEpic So the devs were in direct competition with the very people taking a risk to sell their products in their stores?

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@Ahmed_Qaraxy @TimSweeneyEpic Both are bad, but EA is the worst, and I haven't been targeted even once. They promote gambling, but only one of them was sued IMMEDIATELY after winning a victory.

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@Valzentiaz @andrean_rip @TimSweeneyEpic You'd drown... 🤷‍♂️

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@Ahmed_Qaraxy @BarryDingleSak @TimSweeneyEpic The majority of playerbase seem to disagree with this sentiment. The UX on Epic Games is horrendous. With such a bad product, it's no wonder that no one is changing over despite giving free games out every week. People literally prefer buying a game than getting it free on EG.

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@Axiom0159 @TimSweeneyEpic Other stores cannot compete because they are force to match the price, even when they have less fees elsewhere.

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@Ahmed_Qaraxy @MagnumOsiris @TimSweeneyEpic MS takes a 30% cut of all games sold on the XBOX console.

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@Ahmed_Qaraxy @MagnumOsiris @TimSweeneyEpic Because 30% is industry standard across all platforms like PS/XBOX/APPLE/ANDROID you stupid sodomite.

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@Knightw0lf_ @zewmerz @tinrocha @TimSweeneyEpic They lowered it for PC and only to alleviate the absolute discrepancy between PC and XBOX games. It had nothing to do with Steam and everything to do with charging $80 for a game that was $60 everywhere else.

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@fransfebri @TimSweeneyEpic The huge problem that is Steam providing a better user experience and better overall discounts directly and indirectly without scummy exclusivity deals But sure, you can shoot the Sun as much as you want, I guess

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@actualkhai @TimSweeneyEpic steam is 1% a store to me. I care about the literally everything else steam does that epic doesn't. if this guy is complaining about steam store policy holding epic back, the guy complaining doesn't have a clue why he's failing.

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On top of this you ACTIVELY acquire studios and delist their games from steam FORCING consumers to use your platform to play them Where the fuck did horizon chase turbo go yesterday? Delisted from steam to force consumers to use garbage epic launcher?? Ur a clown bro, stop yappin.

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@Axiom0159 @GeraGalvez @TimSweeneyEpic Ubisoft doesn’t have a choice. The vast majority of PC gamers use Steam. Valve forcing Ubisoft to raise prices hurts consumers

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@georgebsocial @TimSweeneyEpic Steam is, and will always be, the best platform, ans you know it. That's why you've been trying to set up this difamation campaign but it ain't work lol

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@zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic So you asked for one example, got it and then because that destroyed your argument you moved the goalposts. Got ya 😂 Man these Steam fangirls are something else 🤦

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@dotCalico @TimSweeneyEpic @zewmerz Not initially. I bought it on STEAM, and one week later it was delisted on STEAM. They still honored the purchases on STEAM though, so I didn't have to play it through epic at launch.

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@BarryDingleSak @RifqyDG @TimSweeneyEpic @grok Arguably even worse is the old Unreal games, which aren’t even on the epic games store in the first place, so now you’re just forced to pirate them.

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@S_AhsanRaza @TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic The sole reason to upgrade RE to UE6 is to make a "newer" version that will only work with EGS

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@Raidfather @Axiom0159 There’s no requirement to sell on Steam. To sell on THEIR platform you agree to their terms. They could easily remove their game from steam and offer their platform as the exclusive home of their game. Its the same concept with selling on Amazon vs selling on your own website

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@Cristian3149903 @TimSweeneyEpic 💯

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@BarryDingleSak @TimSweeneyEpic Why are you being such a prick to Tim? He's the man

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@unknownzombie01 @gorellana09 @TimSweeneyEpic But steam requires 30% cut from sells and that’s not same for other store fronts. Thats the point. If I’m reading this correctly, Steam penalizes publishers from passing on savings they would get from other store fronts to customers.

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@TimSweeneyEpic Also could you get any lower to always be tweeting the most childish rants possivle about your competitor, with news from a grifter that constantly misinforms not just Gaben, but specially YOU?

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@Josh_Christiane @TimSweeneyEpic Did you read to the point where Ubi folded and left the game on Steam? Only one side lost.

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@hollings_ @TimSweeneyEpic @zewmerz This is giving me PTSD, how all the hype I had for that game went to the fucking trashcan in a matter of minutes.

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@SmashJT @TimSweeneyEpic MFN clauses are in existence everywhere and completely legal. Just means everyone gets the deal. Steam doesn't have to carry anyone's game if they intend to bilk consumers there while undercutting Steam on their own platform.

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@zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic tbh not trying to defend “epic” here, but theoretically there is only so much bandwidth to deal with cases It has to be one at a time and hitting the biggest one from a store POV will cascadingly fix the “monopoly” esque behaviors of the rest E.g epic winning the Apple lawsuit

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@ReeeRaptor @TimSweeneyEpic @zewmerz It was meant to release on Steam until Epic bought exclusivity and prevented it's release there. It only actually released on Steam after the exclusivity period was over.

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@saraliciousz_x @zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic For the PC marketplace, Steam is the only platform that charges 30%. Publishers have the choice of which platform to sell on but it's a problem when Steam is forcing price parity. On consoles publishers can only go with the 30% fee.

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@mothman_47 @TimSweeneyEpic Price parity policies are seen as anti-competitive. This is why Valve denied having one in court before the Ubisoft email was presented.

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@georgebsocial @TimSweeneyEpic You know, Mr GB... You're still the OG. Never change, you beautiful man!

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Another thing Epic should explore is universal ownership. The Walled Garden Model you challenged and won against on Mobile is being challenged for the rest of the video game industry. In the future there will be multiple store fronts on every console. You'll be able to buy DLC from anywhere and have it work for your game. Why not get ahead of this and work towards universal ownership licensing? Buy on Epic, own on GoG and Steam. Why not work with the other store fronts for universal ownership. Buy on one, own on all. The industry to some extent is moving in that direction. It would be wise to capitalize on it before everyone else does. That is something gamers would actually care about. "Wait if I buy from Epic I can play on My Xbox? Hell yeah!" "If I bought the game on Xbox or PlayStation I can download it on my PC through Epic? Hell yeah." Then if I'm playing on PC through Epic, why wouldn't I then buy the DLC if it carries over to one of the other platforms? That's a too good to pass on deal. Buy from epic, own on multiple platforms. If you have this before it becomes normal, you'll have a good chunk of the market. If you wait then most will just enjoy buying things through Steam or Xbox on PC. This is also something Xbox should be pushing more of with their in ecosystem purchases that lets you play on PC and Xbox. Food for thought. Doubt many will read this, but it was fun writing it out.

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@Exultia_x @TimSweeneyEpic It's because Valve does things the right way, people are not afraid to pay money for good service, Epic Games service and store sucks. Even if they give games away for free. Same as with pirateing games and movies, it's never about the money, it all about the service.

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@zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic https://t.co/u4OPYxFs05

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@Josh_Christiane @TimSweeneyEpic They threatened to remove the game because they were unfairly keeping the price raised on Steam rather than bringing it to parity with the offering on their own launcher- using price manipulation to draw customers, rather than fairly compete for customer choice of platform.

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@TimSweeneyEpic Damn lil bro, you could have made something to compete but you made a steaming pile of shit. Epic was used for 2 reasons, free games you handed out to get engagement, or fortnite after you sold the soul of the game in favor of battle royale slop. Stay mad and unloved

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@TimSweeneyEpic Fella who thinks firing someone with cancer is actually necessary for Fortnite to keep running with yet another take. Your shitty ass store hauls exclusive games from actually great games and that hurts the industry much more than Valve having actually a usable store front :')

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@andrean_rip @TimSweeneyEpic Crab basket mentality, he doesn't want his things to get better, he want other's stuff to suck like his.

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We don't care if epic or ms came with less cut, everyone else take 30%. Nobody care about Microsoft Store. Epic Game Store is so trash that people take the free game but buy it in Steam No matter how hard you cry, to be a competitor you need to copy or bring something new against Steam Epic didn' bring shit, 12% cut(or 8% if UE is use) And the only way to ESG to survive was open up the wallet to get exclusive just to get almost 0 revenu.

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@Marley_Q @gorellana09 @TimSweeneyEpic They allow 0 percent on keys.

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@TimSweeneyEpic Mejora tu launcher de mierda antes de querer hablar de la competencia, steam hizo durante años una comunidad ustedes no, ademas en steam un hackeo te lo solucionan en 15 minutos y en EPIC MIERDA STORE TARDA 1 AÑO en darte solucion y puedas recuperar tu cuenta

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@TimSweeneyEpic And yes, it's fair, because they could decline the offer, be independent, but game would die without steam support lol. Publishers are always free to go to EGS, or whatever launcher. But please be ready in advance to crawl back to the only platform which cares for it's customers

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@Frederick0408 @EmperorsCh78712 @TimSweeneyEpic And clearly isn't fucking working because I've had scammers use two of my email addresses to create EGS accounts. I never got emails asking for me to verify the accounts, they were just automatically verified by Epic because whoever did it used a valid email. i.e, my email accs.

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@TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic Does Valve sell their games on EGS or GOG?

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@rifleman_harris @TimSweeneyEpic @zewmerz GOG is goated tho

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@overland_r @LoganWalkerBP @Advanc3DWarning @TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic Cool when was those valve games on egs and then pulled from it to be exclusive to steam?

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@AvadxFeirm @TimSweeneyEpic I hate Linux, but Steam is putting in work to make games compatible.

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@GoldenAKMs @Axiom0159 @GeraGalvez @TimSweeneyEpic I'm more annoyed about them buy games to have a year or so exclusivity, with metro Exodus being the real example of why shit like that isn't okay. If a dev wants to just release their game on epic with out a push from Tim Sweeney's pockets to stay exclusive I'm all for it.

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@Chrisness @Mr_Peggle @Axiom0159 @GeraGalvez @TimSweeneyEpic >make a conscious choice to sell your game on Steam >sign a contract stating that you can't lower the price on other platforms unless you lower it on Steam >violate the terms >receive a warning that if you don't follow the terms, your game will be deleted literally a monopoly!!

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@S_AhsanRaza @TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic Did the same thing with Fall Guys. Guys a wet wipe and people suck up his shit thinking he's trying to save them.

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@GoldenAKMs @Axiom0159 @GeraGalvez @TimSweeneyEpic Because people don't want to use EGS. Doesn't mean they don't have the choice, just that it's a bad call to make.

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@Axiom0159 @TimSweeneyEpic It should work like that, but apparently it isn't if the one with monopoly can threaten you to get delisted if you don't match the price. Free market is when you can set whatever price you want where ever you sell it.

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@ScottyTidwell @TimSweeneyEpic Disingenuous takes like this is why people who are entrenched in the steam ecosystem don't take you seriously. You either have no idea what's going on here you're being intentionally retarded

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@RagingWolffe @Lensar_dawn @TimSweeneyEpic Hell, most of the time the free shit they offer is indie slop that I'm not sure how many people are going to go out of their way to go to the Epic store to claim, outside of people who are just REALLY into indie games. If the offerings were better, more people would use it tbh

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@GoldenAKMs @Axiom0159 @GeraGalvez @TimSweeneyEpic People get angry because EGS is bullshit freshly defecated. They can choose not to sell on Steam. A dumb choice, but a choice.

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@SyaoranSama @fransfebri @TimSweeneyEpic Look, I have spent probably 5 figures on steam over my life. I use it every day. Their discounts suck these days. They almost never have the best price, there's other etailers that will even sell steam keys (legit, partnered stores - not keysellers) below the steam store cost.

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@PamonhaDiPira @TimSweeneyEpic GabeN is the only Multi billionaire I will defend till my last dying breath. Steam always took care of the gaming community.

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@TimSweeneyEpic Hey Tim, could you just fuck off forever? That'd be great.

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@TimSweeneyEpic You right Tim valve aren’t doing fair competition

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@zewmerz @tinrocha @TimSweeneyEpic Tim went after Microsoft and valve.

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@Ahmed_Qaraxy @BarryDingleSak @TimSweeneyEpic Good, keep your retarded jeet fag street shitting on your own dumpster continent.

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@YackassThePSL @TimSweeneyEpic New Vegas is the weeb shit. Now go obliterate your own skull. You’re more likely to do it than I am

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@ZacharyCarreiro @Sepulchure__ @TimSweeneyEpic Ubisoft tendría que pagarme a mi por jugar un juego en su tienda para que yo considere que es buena oferta. Jugar en su launcher es la peor experiencia posible.

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@fransfebri @TimSweeneyEpic True or not doesn't change the fact that he sits around all day shit talking the competition but it took FOUR FUCKING YEARS for EGS to get an estimated download timer.. Something most BROWSERS launch with.

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@fransfebri @TimSweeneyEpic btw, price parity protects buyers That being said, why should players pay a "tax" just because they prefer Steam's cloud saves, seamless SteamOS integration, and controller APIs? A rival platform's lower cut should fund better infrastructure, not punish Steam consumers

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@AlexxSeven @TimSweeneyEpic They would nev.....oh wait.

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@JustinBeAbel @TimSweeneyEpic Yup like the other store suck as …none even has the same stuff steam offer lol.

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@tinrocha @zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic Xbox on PC =/= Xbox Store

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@ScottyTidwell @TimSweeneyEpic They can but they have to lower the price on Steam too. Insane, isn't it?

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@Jumpluff165820 @Tecnoguy1 @GeraGalvez @Axiom0159 @TimSweeneyEpic Steam isn’t a monopoly at all, that would imply that they’re the only store available. Steam is used by 99% of pc gamers because it’s the most consumer friendly.

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@Mr_Peggle @Axiom0159 @GeraGalvez @TimSweeneyEpic They’re able to lower the price on their store because Valve takes a 30% cut. Ubi wanted to cut out the middle man and save consumers money

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@YackassThePSL @MGJackRipper @TimSweeneyEpic "metal gear weeb" Also new vegas fans: https://t.co/XOZO0oCT2y

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@RagingWolffe @TimSweeneyEpic how dare you compare us to that piece of shit

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@tinrocha @zewmerz @TimSweeneyEpic You don't use either do you. It's not the fucking Microsoft Store lmao.

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@TimSweeneyEpic Your compamy has actively delisted games from steam while also forcing developers to exclusively sell on your platform (Alan Wake 2) You actively push exclusivities on PC which everyone hate.

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@fransfebri @SyaoranSama @TimSweeneyEpic That's not even remotely what happened 😂. They said they can't sell STEAM KEY for cheaper on other platforms. No one was stopping them from selling the game itself on other platforms for cheaper.

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@Mushgamer99 @TheIshikawaRin @TimSweeneyEpic This 1000% I've said this from day one Timmy don't care about fair competition he just wants to be No1 but what he completely forgets is to be No1 you actually have to do a better job then you established competitors & he's not, EGS is still lacking features from day one.

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@poopemanz420 @TimSweeneyEpic Brother 🤣

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@poopemanz420 @TimSweeneyEpic I'm not defending one big company over other one. I'm just laughing at Tim 🤣

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@poopemanz420 @TimSweeneyEpic Dud, can you comprehend this whole situation is absurd? It's like me complaining bigger artist has a monopoly on drawing fat bitches 🌚

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@BikeMan @TimSweeneyEpic @shannonplante >grumbling More like "whining" and "sobbing" tbh

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@TimSweeneyEpic you the guy who straight up bought third party games to only be featured on his storefront?